those that have crashed before...

Captain Morgan · 08-21-2008, 12:39 PM

Honestly, it was "oh shit, this is gonna hurt." and "Fuck! Not again!!"

nhgunnut · 08-21-2008, 01:02 PM

For me I was riding my wife 03 Victory Touring Cruiser back from haivng it inspected in April of 04 a woman driving a blue VW from CT had signaled left then pulled into the left turning lane I was in the right lane going traveling at the 50 mph speed limit. When I was about 30 yards back she suddenly lurches slowly back into the travel lane at about 3 to 5 mph.
Time dialted I came down hard on the binders realized I wasn't going to make it and if I hit the back of her I was going to high side through my windshieeld amd probably her back window, locked the rear ,the rear came loose , pressed down hard on the left side footboard and squeezed harder on the front brake the ass end of the bike slid so the bike was 90 degrees away from the direction of travel all and the bike continued down the highway bars hit them my knee and instinct left over from dirt bike days (25 plus years ago) rolled in and when the knee touched I let go of the bars and did my best to kick free of the bike. I ragg dolled down the road beat the hell out of the helmet breking only my right thumb and big toe.. Minor road rash
The woman never stopped. when I stood back up I had my first thought wich was "you Cee yoU Next Tuesday" Before that for me it was all Decision Making an instinct I fought all the way down. Shook like a leaf for about 30 minuts got home from being looked over in the ER and got on my VIctory and went to see how bad her bike was (minor)

Phenix_Rider · 08-21-2008, 01:25 PM

My thoughts in my lowside: "Ok, roll off the throttle, tip it in, little bit of throttle. Damn, that corner keeps going! A Dip, WTF?! Rut! Little more lean. SHIT!! No more front! Hey, sliding is fun! That's gonna be expensive. FUCK FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK FUCK"

I knew I was going to make it through the turn. 5 guys ahead of me made it just fine. I just reached the limit of my front tire, and when it slid I unconsciously released some of the throttle, which put the bike all the way on the ground. The bike did a 180 and slid into the dirt bank. I went feet first behind it and basically slid into first. Had some help getting the bike away from the road, after that I started shaking, and then to a spot where everyone could stop. Big realization was those tires suck, I dicked up by losing throttle, I need a jacket that zips to my pants, and having a wallet in that pocket sucks. Ziptied things down, bent the rear brake lever out, and rode to a lunch stop. Couldn't ride a straight line because my frame of reference was fucked up (windscreen and upper fairings and gauge/mirror bracket were bent to hell), and I couldn't stand to look down at the speedo. Cooled off a bit there and rode the 50 miles home.

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Originally Posted by NONE_too_SOFT

I still hold to the statement that wrecking in full leathers can potentially be the FUNNEST thing you can do on a bike. Its the aftermath that sucks. its like an asphalt water slide.

Truth. Am I the only one that thinks it would be fun to test gear occasionally? Like the Draggin' Jeans video- just slide around for a while without worrying about guardrails or trees.

NONE_too_SOFT · 08-21-2008, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Phenix_Rider

My thoughts in my lowside: "Ok, roll off the throttle, tip it in, little bit of throttle. Damn, that corner keeps going! A Dip, WTF?! Rut! Little more lean. SHIT!! No more front! Hey, sliding is fun! That's gonna be expensive. FUCK FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK FUCK"

I knew I was going to make it through the turn. 5 guys ahead of me made it just fine. I just reached the limit of my front tire, and when it slid I unconsciously released some of the throttle, which put the bike all the way on the ground. The bike did a 180 and slid into the dirt bank. I went feet first behind it and basically slid into first. Had some help getting the bike away from the road, after that I started shaking, and then to a spot where everyone could stop. Big realization was those tires suck, I dicked up by losing throttle, I need a jacket that zips to my pants, and having a wallet in that pocket sucks. Ziptied things down, bent the rear brake lever out, and rode to a lunch stop. Couldn't ride a straight line because my frame of reference was fucked up (windscreen and upper fairings and gauge/mirror bracket were bent to hell), and I couldn't stand to look down at the speedo. Cooled off a bit there and rode the 50 miles home.

Truth. Am I the only one that thinks it would be fun to test gear occasionally? Like the Draggin' Jeans video- just slide around for a while without worrying about guardrails or trees.

thats almost identical to what happened on my last get off. cept i hit a guard rail.

Trip · 08-21-2008, 01:58 PM

you got to train yourself not to release the throttle. Bad bad idea to release. Could of highsided.

Gunther1000 · 08-21-2008, 02:30 PM

Sliding the rear on the street just feels so strange cause you never do it.

The first natural reaction is to try to let off and get things back to normal. But as you all should know its the worst thing you can do. A front tire will not slide out if your still on the gas. The weight transfer to the front on a roll off isn't the only thing to put you into a high side or tank slap, its the slipping rear also regaining to much traction and wanting to throw the bike over.

After years of Ice racing and dirt riding I used the rear tire to steer all the time, but when your on the street that feeling just doesn't get used. and when you identify whats going on you can deal with it but i think it just scares you into letting off before you know what is going on and at that point its to late!

My bike brakes the rear loose on roll on's every morning when I leave for work. I can even pull out of the turning lane doing a little power slide most days and not really give it much thought. But let that happen coming out of a corner and it shocks me most times. unless the road is wet/cold I know it will happen and can prepare for it.

What kills me is when like at a place like the gap and the tire comes loose and your not even thinking its possible. When it does I think hum, I rolled on twice as much power last time I wonder why it did that now?

NONE_too_SOFT · 08-21-2008, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunther1000

Sliding the rear on the street just feels so strange cause you never do it.

when i first started riding i locked up the rear and did some drifting a couple times. Whoa shit moments... that was back when i actually used the rear to stop in an emergency.

I remember it scared the piss out of me, but in retrospect it was kina cool. especially the one where i slid like 20 feet and out around the side of a pickup that decided to stop in the road to admire the scenery.

MikeSP1 · 08-21-2008, 02:52 PM

One of my more recent get offs involved the side of a Toyota. I'm tooling down the road on a Shadow 750 when a car pulls out in front of me from the on-coming lane. At this point time stops and my brain knocks on the back of my forehead and calmly says "Hey dude, guess what! You're screwed. You've got half a second before you smear the side of that car, good luck." Time resumes its proper flow and I eat the side of the car at about 45. I can still remember seeing my front tire contact the side of her car. I can still see my front forks compress and the drag bars buck forward and then recoil back to smack me in the chest. As I felt my ass comes out of the saddle I can hear the most immense BANG of my life. With the bang resounding through my head my thoughts are going wild. I'm thinking "This is gonna feel REAL bad," "This cannot be happening today," and "I hope I make it out of here alive, much less one piece." As I go flying through the air, the whole world goes blank, my mind goes blank, everything goes silent. I don't remember the impact with the ground, don't remember sliding/tumbling, don't remember anything until I opened my eyes, spread eagle in the middle of the intersection, looking up at the clear blue sky. Getting up was an interesting feat because rolling over wouldn't work, I just couldn't build up enough momentum to get up onto my side. Sitting straight up was the only thing that would work.

I hope this helps with you're looking for. I'm sorry for your loss, but he's probably carving corners as we speak.

08-21-2008, 02:30 PM	#6
Gunther1000 Jesus Christ! Join Date: Jul 2008 Moto: (The Chi's lover) Posts: 801	Sliding the rear on the street just feels so strange cause you never do it. The first natural reaction is to try to let off and get things back to normal. But as you all should know its the worst thing you can do. A front tire will not slide out if your still on the gas. The weight transfer to the front on a roll off isn't the only thing to put you into a high side or tank slap, its the slipping rear also regaining to much traction and wanting to throw the bike over. After years of Ice racing and dirt riding I used the rear tire to steer all the time, but when your on the street that feeling just doesn't get used. and when you identify whats going on you can deal with it but i think it just scares you into letting off before you know what is going on and at that point its to late! My bike brakes the rear loose on roll on's every morning when I leave for work. I can even pull out of the turning lane doing a little power slide most days and not really give it much thought. But let that happen coming out of a corner and it shocks me most times. unless the road is wet/cold I know it will happen and can prepare for it. What kills me is when like at a place like the gap and the tire comes loose and your not even thinking its possible. When it does I think hum, I rolled on twice as much power last time I wonder why it did that now? __________________ FTP

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08-21-2008, 12:39 PM	#1
Captain Morgan Let's do another U-turn Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Indiana Moto: 2009 V-Strom Posts: 3,816	Honestly, it was "oh shit, this is gonna hurt." and "Fuck! Not again!!"

08-21-2008, 01:02 PM	#2
nhgunnut gun totin redneck Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South West New Hampshire Moto: turbo busa 999 Duc Goldwing & Victory Posts: 1,130	For me I was riding my wife 03 Victory Touring Cruiser back from haivng it inspected in April of 04 a woman driving a blue VW from CT had signaled left then pulled into the left turning lane I was in the right lane going traveling at the 50 mph speed limit. When I was about 30 yards back she suddenly lurches slowly back into the travel lane at about 3 to 5 mph. Time dialted I came down hard on the binders realized I wasn't going to make it and if I hit the back of her I was going to high side through my windshieeld amd probably her back window, locked the rear ,the rear came loose , pressed down hard on the left side footboard and squeezed harder on the front brake the ass end of the bike slid so the bike was 90 degrees away from the direction of travel all and the bike continued down the highway bars hit them my knee and instinct left over from dirt bike days (25 plus years ago) rolled in and when the knee touched I let go of the bars and did my best to kick free of the bike. I ragg dolled down the road beat the hell out of the helmet breking only my right thumb and big toe.. Minor road rash The woman never stopped. when I stood back up I had my first thought wich was "you Cee yoU Next Tuesday" Before that for me it was all Decision Making an instinct I fought all the way down. Shook like a leaf for about 30 minuts got home from being looked over in the ER and got on my VIctory and went to see how bad her bike was (minor)

08-21-2008, 02:52 PM	#8
MikeSP1 Perpetual trouble Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: at the base of the Alps Moto: VTX 1300C, RC51, CBR600RR, CBR929RR Posts: 715	One of my more recent get offs involved the side of a Toyota. I'm tooling down the road on a Shadow 750 when a car pulls out in front of me from the on-coming lane. At this point time stops and my brain knocks on the back of my forehead and calmly says "Hey dude, guess what! You're screwed. You've got half a second before you smear the side of that car, good luck." Time resumes its proper flow and I eat the side of the car at about 45. I can still remember seeing my front tire contact the side of her car. I can still see my front forks compress and the drag bars buck forward and then recoil back to smack me in the chest. As I felt my ass comes out of the saddle I can hear the most immense BANG of my life. With the bang resounding through my head my thoughts are going wild. I'm thinking "This is gonna feel REAL bad," "This cannot be happening today," and "I hope I make it out of here alive, much less one piece." As I go flying through the air, the whole world goes blank, my mind goes blank, everything goes silent. I don't remember the impact with the ground, don't remember sliding/tumbling, don't remember anything until I opened my eyes, spread eagle in the middle of the intersection, looking up at the clear blue sky. Getting up was an interesting feat because rolling over wouldn't work, I just couldn't build up enough momentum to get up onto my side. Sitting straight up was the only thing that would work. I hope this helps with you're looking for. I'm sorry for your loss, but he's probably carving corners as we speak.