Belly up to the bar....

[Cutty72]

Originally Posted by Ebbs15

blah... the 1125R frame is based off every other buel frame... it's just made for the new motor. the motor is brand new... but it's still no diffrent than Honda, Yami, Suzi or Kawi creating a new motor every couple years... just because they were in last years bike and share the cc's doesn't mean they share anything else.

had they named the 1125r the 08 firebolt... it would be no diffrent than the jap 4's complete redesigns IMO.

the jap 4 just have more $ for R&D and know what works... they need to get it right the first time... and usually... do.

still don't agree.
firebolt frame holds like 3 gal. 1125 > 5.3 gal
firebolt swingarm is the oil res. 1125 has a standard oil res.
firebolt air cooled HD based motor. 1125 liquid Rotax motor

a jap "complete redesign" is like the 1125R to the 1125CR
lets see how the CR does and go from there.

[Mr Lefty]

no... they redesign the frames too... look at my bike and the frame for the 03 ZX6R...

so it got a new swing arm... happens alot...

take the R6... match up the parts from an 05 R6 to the 06 R6...

the 1125R to the 1125cr is like the SV1000 and the SV1000R just stripped off fairings.

the redesigns in the big 4 are a more complete than you think. they change calipers, forks, roaters, wheels, frames, swing arms, motors, tranny's... ect... while still keeping reliablity.

plain and simple... I think the buell is a good bike... but they don't have the reliablity or fit and finish that a jap 4 bike does.