Clutch or no Clutch?

[racedoll]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

Model\Year: ZX6RR\2004
Miles you have put on it:17,900
Any general comments: always use a clutch

Originally Posted by marko138

Try clutchless shifting on a XB...it'll sound like a Peterbuilt banging through gears.

[OTB]

For whatever it is worth; I have used clutchless up and downshifting for everything (except for two Harleys) but the 1-2 shift since 1970something. I have owned and ridden a multitude of bikes, several 70+k miles....

I have NEVER needed to replace a clutch or gearbox on a streetbike......

Not once....never.....

(I have smoked my share of clutches on the track, however......)

[marko138]

Originally Posted by OTB

For whatever it is worth; I have used clutchless up and downshifting for everything (except for two Harleys) but the 1-2 shift since 1970something. I have owned and ridden a multitude of bikes, several 70+k miles....

I have NEVER needed to replace a clutch or gearbox on a streetbike......

Not once....never.....

(I have smoked my share of clutches on the track, however......)

Did you go clutchless on my Buell when you rode it?

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by OTB

For whatever it is worth; I have used clutchless up and downshifting for everything (except for two Harleys) but the 1-2 shift since 1970something. I have owned and ridden a multitude of bikes, several 70+k miles....

I have NEVER needed to replace a clutch or gearbox on a streetbike......

Not once....never.....

(I have smoked my share of clutches on the track, however......)

Yeah...if you don't use the clutch you shouldn't have to replace it..What a concept.

I always release the clutch during shifting, but only a slight tug on the lever. Every track school I've been to recommends releasing the clutch during shifting becuase of the consistency.

I've had too many bikes and ridden too many miles.

[Captain Morgan]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

Yeah...if you don't use the clutch you shouldn't have to replace it..What a concept.

He also says he's never had to replace a gearbox, which I think is the key part of the statement. And with putting 70k miles on bikes, it doesn't sound like it's detrimental to not use the clutch.

[OTB]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

Yeah...if you don't use the clutch you shouldn't have to replace it..What a concept.

'Cept for starting and stopping, idling, waiting at stop signs and lights, ......

Originally Posted by marko138

Did you go clutchless on my Buell when you rode it?

Did you hear the earth move.....

[DLIT]

Originally Posted by azoomm

At work right now

Always clutch the work bike -
2010 R1200RTP
~2000 miles

After hours bike - never use clutch - but it has gear-shift-assist.
2010 BMW S1000RR
~1000 miles

Rode a S1000RR the other day. Just to see how the shift-assist (BMW's version of a quick-shifter) worked. Worked really well. I wasn't raping the throttle, but even down low (around 4-5k) it was still smooth. Great bike.

[z06boy]

Always used the clutch on R1 with 12,500 miles on it. 11,500 on the R6 and clutch has always been used.

I've owned close to 10 or so bikes and have always used the clutch.

Originally Posted by marko138

Did you go clutchless on my Buell when you rode it?