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Old 01-12-2010, 11:41 AM   #41
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Phelps wasn't using while he was an olympic athlete.
Exactly. If Phelps had tested positive for any banned substance during the olympics his medals would have been taken away. What he does after the competition is irrelevant.

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How come Phelps' medals weren't taken away then?

Double standard.
First, the Canadian snowboarder had his medal restored to him, it was only taken away temporarily.

Second, Phelps was smart enough to not be around weed before or during the competition. The snowboarder was not as smart. The additional stupidity on the part of the snowboarder does not create a double standard.
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Old 01-12-2010, 11:42 AM   #42
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Why not ? Sure you have to have the hand/eye coordination first but extra strength surely has to help imho.

The only problem I have with the use of it is the fact that it's against the rules...these guys do it...get caught...lie about it...and then come out later saying that they did it.

I think it matters when they break a record...it's not fair to the person that had his record broken unless it shows that they too were using steroids.

It doesn't really matter to me if they do it or not...for one I'm not a big baseball fan to begin with but just throwing this out there.
I think thats why he also apologized to the marris family.
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Old 01-12-2010, 11:49 AM   #43
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Exactly. If Phelps had tested positive for any banned substance during the olympics his medals would have been taken away. What he does after the competition is irrelevant.



First, the Canadian snowboarder had his medal restored to him, it was only taken away temporarily.

Second, Phelps was smart enough to not be around weed before or during the competition. The snowboarder was not as smart. The additional stupidity on the part of the snowboarder does not create a double standard.
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Old 01-12-2010, 11:53 AM   #44
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You guys keep bringing up weed and comparing it to steroids likes it's a performance enhancing drug. Who cares if athletes smoke pot?
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Old 01-12-2010, 11:55 AM   #45
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You guys keep bringing up weed and comparing it to steroids likes it's a performance enhancing drug. Who cares if athletes smoke pot?
The IOC apparently. I think that is the part that confuses me, is the IOC acting out of morality or concern for the sport?
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Old 01-12-2010, 12:18 PM   #46
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It's probably due to American pressure
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Old 01-12-2010, 05:45 PM   #47
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Funny thing is long term steroid use leads to other injuries.
Like what?
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Old 01-12-2010, 05:47 PM   #48
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Like what?
Connective tisue injuries, ligament tears, muscle tears and thing along those lines.
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Connective tisue injuries, ligament tears, muscle tears and thing along those lines.
How do steroids cause those? Cause even people who are natural can tear, sprain, strain, pull, rip, bruise, and disrupt all those very things.

BTW are you familiar with how anabolic steroids work? Because their #1 reason for use is to repair muscle. In fact, Decadurabolin can aid in repairing the connective tissue of muscles.
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Old 01-12-2010, 06:07 PM   #50
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How do steroids cause those? Cause even people who are natural can tear, sprain, strain, pull, rip, bruise, and disrupt all those very things.

BTW are you familiar with how anabolic steroids work? Because their #1 reason for use is to repair muscle. In fact, Decadurabolin can aid in repairing the connective tissue of muscles.
Oh I am sure I have heard how they worked in the biochemstry course I have taken, while I dont have access to the exact mechanism that causes this or the myriad of other side effects did a quick search and came up with an article here, pages 5 and 6 touch on the limited data and link it to possible issues with collagen or the fact that the muscles hypertrophy very fast and the connective tissues cannot compenste/keep up with the gains.

http://www.jssm.org/vol5/n2/2/v5n2-2pdf.pdf

Sounding a wee bit defensive now???????
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