5.0 Mustang GT throws a beating to Camaro and Challenger

[goof2]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

That's hilarious.

If you think that is funny the $43,700 base and $46,700 as tested prices for the Challenger SRT-8 should really have you rolling.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by goof2

If you think that is funny the $43,700 base and $46,700 as tested prices for the Challenger SRT-8 should really have you rolling.

Yeah I've never understood that one. I could probably get a Vette for that price.

[smileyman]

As an enthusiast I would love to have 412 ponies just cause. A 6 spd to row, some real grippy tires and a V8 snarl.
BUT...Since bike rock and all i need from a sports car is rainy day transportion the V6 engines will do. I still get to row the box, 300 hp is more than my 350Z had or any of my 80s V8 coupes had, and gets better mileage all for 8-10K less and lower insurance. With the money i save i can afford a sport bike andtrack time. What could be better...

[Dave]

Originally Posted by smileyman

As an enthusiast I would love to have 412 ponies just cause. A 6 spd to row, some real grippy tires and a V8 snarl.
BUT...Since bike rock and all i need from a sports car is rainy day transportion the V6 engines will do. I still get to row the box, 300 hp is more than my 350Z had or any of my 80s V8 coupes had, and gets better mileage all for 8-10K less and lower insurance. With the money i save i can afford a sport bike andtrack time. What could be better...

psssssst! Drop a terminator drive train in a 79' fairmont. Whole thing would only maybe run 15k and would kill practically anything on the road

[karl_1052]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Yeah I've never understood that one. I could probably get a Vette for that price.

Not a new one. Since they are not comparing used cars, your argument is retarded.

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Eh, I doubt that adds more than 100-150 lbs

Maybe not that, but I would bet the wiring for all the electronics weighs close to 500lbs.

[goof2]

Originally Posted by karl_1052

Not a new one. Since they are not comparing used cars, your argument is retarded.

A base Corvette coupe is only $2k more expensive than the as tested price of the Challenger.

[pauldun170]

A 400+ Hp coupe with good handling that does runs to 60 in 4.4 seconds and the quarter mile in 12.7 sec @ 111.3 while occasionally pulling .97g on the skidpad is definitely a rip off at anything over 30K.

That shit should be priced at 20K.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

A 400+ Hp coupe with good handling that does runs to 60 in 4.4 seconds and the quarter mile in 12.7 sec @ 111.3 while occasionally pulling .97g on the skidpad is definitely a rip off at anything over 30K.

That shit should be priced at 20K.

Its chassis and engines are shared with many other Ford products.........So it's cheap to build. Ford is just being greedy.

Also, the ultimate reason why you shouldn't pay a lot for this car........The rental lots will be stuffed with 'em

[goof2]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Its chassis and engines are shared with many other Ford products.........So it's cheap to build. Ford is just being greedy.

Also, the ultimate reason why you shouldn't pay a lot for this car........The rental lots will be stuffed with 'em

I don't know if I would call it greedy.

Cars like this (the ones people want) are where a company like Ford needs to make their money. It also helps to make up for all the Focus shitboxes they practically have to give away to offset the CAFE hit the company takes selling V8 cars that drag their fleet average down. CAFE standards are also the reason why manufacturers make so many of the SUVs and crossovers you seem to dislike.

There is a lot of hinky math that goes in to the calculation but the baseline is this year a car needs to get 27.5 mpg combined to be CAFE "neutral" while an SUV/crossover only needs to get 23.5 mpg combined to have the same effect. If the math actually made sense for every current V8 Mustang (19mpg combined) Ford sold they would have to sell 17 Focuses (28mpg combined) to be CAFE neutral. The number is less than that but it is still a lot of Focuses Ford has to move. This is also the reason Dodge screwed around with the dimensions of the Magnum so it was classified as a light truck instead of a passenger car.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by goof2

I don't know if I would call it greedy.

Cars like this (the ones people want) are where a company like Ford needs to make their money. It also helps to make up for all the Focus shitboxes they practically have to give away to offset the CAFE hit the company takes selling V8 cars that drag their fleet average down.

If they didn't sell as many Mustangs, they wouldn't have to sell as many Focuses. Chicken and egg

How about a better strategy, improve the quality & desirability of the Focus, so that it can command a higher price?

Originally Posted by goof2

CAFE standards are also the reason why manufacturers make so many of the SUVs and crossovers you seem to dislike.

How are they being forced to make SUVs/crossovers?